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https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/mind-your-ps-amsterdam-installs-plant-pot-street-urinals-to-improve-toilet-behaviour/?utm_source=newsletterMind your Ps: Amsterdam installs plant pot street urinals to improve toilet manners
A GreenPee with a Pennisetum plant Photo: S. Boztas
It erodes historic walls, creates a stench and may even lead to the deaths of several young men a year, who try to use a canal late at night. So now Amsterdam is trying to make 'wildplassen' – urinating outdoors – better for humans and for the environment by investing in a set of GreenPee urinals.
From Friday evening, late night drinkers in the red light district, Leidseplein and Rembrandtplein will be able to use 12 new facilities which are plant pots during the day and urinals at night. The urine will be harvested for its phosphates and recycled as clean water, while the hardy plants are fed only by rainwater thanks to a reservoir and a series of wicks inside the soil.
'My ambition is to place these in different cities and carry on innovating,' Richard de Vries, inventor of the GreenPee, told DutchNews.nl. 'We can make electricity with urine and it would be good if it could power a light. Maybe it could be a city announcement board for public health messages too.'
Positive behaviour
De Vries describes himself as an environmental psychologist who tries to 'stimulate positive behaviour in the public domain' and combat nuisance such as littering, noise and public urination.
'If you want a solution to wild peeing, cities try to create ownership and a feeling that someone is watching you,' he said. 'That works, but the need for peeing stays. We came up with the idea of a planter to help green the city, have something that looks nicer, but is also a urinal. It's also circular as we make fertiliser from the urine and also green water.'
Four models were temporarily placed in and around the Rembrandtsplein last year, and an independent study suggested that in one street, the Schapensteeg, public urination decreased by 49%.
'A study showed that GreenPees don't create smell problems, and we will monitor whether that continues to be the case,' said Amsterdam city in a press release. 'The new GreenPees have also been further developed…and improved in terms of sustainability, user privacy, recognition and discoverability.'
A GreenPee, with Richard de Vries Photo S. Boztas
Nuisance
Single units cost €4,000 and doubles €5,000 and there are ongoing maintenance costs for collecting the urine, cleaning it and delivering fertiliser for local green products. The city, which according to a spokeswoman is funding the new urinals under a package of measures to reduce nuisance associated with city centre nightlife, will monitor the effects of the GreenPees and investigate whether the facility could be extended to women.
The initiative is an extension of previous Dutch trials to farm fertiliser from toilet visits. Arts centre Mediamatic has cleaned and used urine from five urinals as part of the 'pure gold' display, while urine was also temporarily collected on King's Day by the Dutch water board in 2016. The GreenPee is thought to be the first attempt to make this recycling a permanent fixture of city life.
Saïd Arabi, who runs Euro Super Clean facilities company and helped install the devices this week, is a great advocate. 'It's a good solution to wild peeing,' he said. 'The city of Arnhem is also interested. It's a plant pot and the urinal is only open in the evening when it's dark. It's perfect.'
Permanent
Ivo Thonon, spokesman for the Dutch 'toilet alliance' which campaigns for more public facilities, was also enthusiastic. 'There's a serious problem in Amsterdam with wild peeing and this is a good solution so men don't do it in a corner but in a plant pot, which is better,' he said. 'We are also happy they are putting temporary toilets in parks for the summer, but this all should become permanent.'
But one resident of the Lange Leidesedwarsstraat, who did not want to give her name, was less keen. As DutchNews.nl watched the GreenPee team water their first Pennisetum advena 'Rubrum' plant, she said she would be making a formal complaint.
'We don't want piss on our street – full stop!' she said.
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Message From Mystic Family's Little Herd: 'We Goat This'
It's hard to pass by Stacy Zujus' herd of six Miniature Nubian goats and not stop and smile. Now, stop and get soap from "goats you know."
MYSTIC, CT — Stacy Zujus has a thing for long, floppy ears. On her Miniature Nubian goats, that is.
In 2016, the Mystic mom of two adult sons, whose day job is dispatcher for SEAT buses, was gifted on her birthday with Flying Jenny by her husband Greg. Though she'd owned goats before, back then, she was a newbie with a lot to learn.
This time around, Stacy has this down.
"We had Tennessee Fainting Goats back in 2005, and they were a lot of fun, but we were new then and didn't know how to take care of goats," she said. "And there were not many goat vets around here, surprisingly."
She now has a "dedicated" veterinarian she loves, BC Large Animal Clinic's Dr. Alice Ennis, "is wonderful."
Bramble Barn Farm
At the Zujus home on North Stonignton Road, a small red barn is set back from the roadway, with a herd of Miniature Nubian goats, roaming, and frolicking contentedly. On a recent drive by, a reporter slowed down, and so did another car, to get a glimpse of the four-legged residents at Bramble Barn Farm.
"This time around we chose a dairy goat breed but didn't want a large animal, so we settled on the Miniature Nubian, we have 6 total now 1 buck and 5 does," Stacy said. "I love the long floppy ears."

Stacy said the goats are a "fairly new breed and all are registered with the Miniature Dairy Goat Association."
The Zujus' have travelled to North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia to but their most of their herd, "and even kept a couple that have been born at Bramble Barn."
"I don't know why but I've always had an affinity for goats," she said. "Over the years we have had sheep, pigs, chickens, turkeys, bees and even peacocks."
But it's more than just fun and games with Stacy's goats, they're so productive!
"After they have kids, and the kids are eating on their own, we milk the does and I use the milk to make soap," Stacy said, and her husband has made cheese, and, "This year he tried yogurt. Goat's milk has a much creamier taste than cow's milk."
When asked about what her goats munch on in the farm-yard, she said, "Goats will eat a lot of things, but not necessarily what is good for them, some landscaping plants can be toxic for them. Our goats have their own pasture they can graze, and they get food and hay every night."
Stacy said folks often stop to visit her Bramble Barn Farm goats.
"My goats are super friendly, but some like attention more than others," she explained, and bonded to her. "Jack is always at my side when I'm in the pen."
Stacy said that she and her husband mostly tend to the herd: "I have one son that is allergic to the goats and the other son is allergic to hay so...that leaves them out."

One morning, in the early days of the pandemic, her son Nick Zujus serenaded the herd.
Soap from goats you know

"I would call us a hobby farm since we don't depend on it for income. I did just start selling soap from the house, I've made beer soap and sold that at Beer'd Brewing for three years now," she said.
Bramble Barn Farm handmade goats-milk soap is for sale outside the little farm. On the honor system.
"We have people that stop daily to see the goats," she said, "So I figured that maybe people would like to use a soap from the goats they know."
Hanging out with all her 'kids 'during a pandemic
Stacy works a tough gig helping to make sure SEAT buses run smoothly all over New London County. And though the pandemic, she took inspiration from her herd of kids.











